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Post by furnaceface on Oct 4, 2023 17:35:30 GMT
It’s been suggested we look at changing the IR parameters to allow GMs to place any red flagged player on IR not just NHL IR players. The change would allow red flag and Swiss flag players to go to IR not just Swiss flag players as we have now. The argument is the NHL seems slow to move players to IR as it has cap implications to them while this is a negative impact on fantasy GMs.
vote over the next week and if there is an appetite for charge, we will do so before the season starts.
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Post by fordprefect on Oct 4, 2023 17:44:57 GMT
There is a third, halfway option. Allow any kind of red flag with a white marking to be IR eligible. The red flag only guys tend to be the short term guys, and the red flags with a single white stripe tend to be long term, but players the NHL team doesn’t put on the LTIR for reasons. That is perhaps the logical course to take as it should accommodate long term guys while filtering short term guys.
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Post by fordprefect on Oct 4, 2023 17:51:38 GMT
Question…if a change is adopted will it apply to other leagues as well?
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Post by slots881 on Oct 4, 2023 17:59:24 GMT
What is easiest to do on fantrax? I don't want the mods to have to do more work policing
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Post by foreverflamefan on Oct 4, 2023 18:11:39 GMT
There is a third, halfway option. Allow any kind of red flag with a white marking to be IR eligible. The red flag only guys tend to be the short term guys, and the red flags with a single white stripe tend to be long term, but players the NHL team doesn’t put on the LTIR for reasons. That is perhaps the logical course to take as it should accommodate long term guys while filtering short term guys. ^ This. 100% this. Day to dayers don’t get IR. But, if someone gets a broken hand and is our 4 weeks should get IR. |
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Post by doniceman64 on Oct 4, 2023 18:22:21 GMT
Any red flag
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Post by fordprefect on Oct 4, 2023 18:48:03 GMT
To Dave’s point about NHL teams being slow to LTIR a player…in some cases they never do it. Kylington last season for example. Because the Flames didn’t need the cap relief they never did LTIR Kylington, which totally screwed fantasy owners.
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Post by furnaceface on Oct 4, 2023 20:47:02 GMT
As posted in the other thread, the setting on Fantrax is binary. As I read it, either NHL IR only or any injured players. There is no “black cross” and “black slash” option.
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Post by fordprefect on Oct 4, 2023 20:57:50 GMT
Bummer. Because that would be the best option.
I still maintain that given NHL teams avoiding putting players on LTIR unless they absolutely have to we need to fix our current system. I just read an article by Ryan Pike speculating that the Flames won’t put Kylington, Pelletier or Rooney on the IR because they can ice a team without having to dip into LTIR relief, and that’s more desirable so they can accrue cap space for the tdl. That’s not to say that’s what the Flames will do, but it’s an option and it’s why NHL avoid using LTIR. With teams avoiding LTIR like that it throws a real fuck into trying to manage a fantasy roster. I’d rather see short term injuries go on the IR for a short period than long term injuries being blocked because of NHL teams blocking us from being able to.
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Post by drcor on Oct 4, 2023 21:16:55 GMT
Thank you for the quick and active response from the mods and commish. I appreciate the move to raise the issue for consideration regardless of the outcome.
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Post by ToeMata42 on Oct 5, 2023 2:59:35 GMT
Yaeh I kind of like this too.
Dan - tor
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Post by furnaceface on Oct 5, 2023 8:42:37 GMT
Since I am still in the future, I did some messing around with the settings while you were sleeping.
I unchecked the NHL IR only box, and once I had a player with a solid red flag on my team, I was able to move that player to IR, along with slash and cross players.
Changing back, I was unable to move a slash player player to IR, just cross flag players.
Again, there is no in between option. It’s NHL IR or every red flag, which as we’ve said above, shouldn’t be an issue.
assuming Dan votes yes, that’s alrewqdt 12 votes so it’s pretty safe to say this change will be adopted. I’ll give it a bit more time to make it official though.
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Post by fordprefect on Oct 5, 2023 9:51:50 GMT
And will this apply to dynasty as well?
I’ll adopt it for roto certainly.
Edit … at a 12-0 vote I think it’s safe to say the decision is made.
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