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Post by mrchristy31 on Feb 19, 2021 23:49:41 GMT
After an intense day of negotiating, Buffalo and Minnesota have settled on the following.
To Buf
-Lucic
-Tomasino
-2023 1st FA (Min)
To Min
-JVR
-2021 1st FA (LA)
Buffalo reasoning:
Covid and goaltending has crippled me for this season, time to capitalize on JVR's hot start to pick up a blue chip prospect and deferred UFA pick to what will hopefully be, the beginning of a long run of competitiveness.
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Post by drcor on Feb 20, 2021 0:58:15 GMT
Full disclosure,
I put a veto vote in. I don’t think this trade balances.
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Post by fordprefect on Feb 20, 2021 1:23:20 GMT
So which way do you think it’s slanted Doc? I see it slanted in Buffalo’s favour.
Edit...that’s when viewed in a vacuum. Contextually I can see rationale for both sides.
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Post by cyclone on Feb 20, 2021 1:28:37 GMT
Rationale:
I saw JVR on the block and wanted to take my shot. Mr Christy (who makes good cookies) liked Lucic and pressed me for Tomasino. As Ford can attest, I was not giving up Tomasino. This is clearly a win for me now and next season. Buffalo will be reaping the benefits in 2023 with a good young NHLer and a 1st rd pick. He has already expressed his strategy is a strong future. He just got that.
Who wins depends on when you ask that question.
Thank you for the good talks. This went back and forth a few times to get us both happy.
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Post by drcor on Feb 20, 2021 2:20:25 GMT
I saw it as slanted for Cyclone. Especially since he picked up Lucic on Wednesday.. Tomasino is good, but JVR is producing well over a ppg..
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Post by fordprefect on Feb 20, 2021 2:27:51 GMT
Lucic certainly doesn’t add any value to the deal being a scrap pile pick up. I’m not sold on JVR being more than a past-prime middle sixer on a hot streak tho, so I guess that’s where we diverge on scoring this deal.
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Post by mrchristy31 on Feb 20, 2021 2:30:03 GMT
I can see your perspective, but ultimately I am selling high on JVR. I don’t expect the pace to keep up and am very fortunate to have picked JVR up on waivers a few weeks ago.
JVR——Lucic+Tomasino
2023 1st ufa——2021 ufa
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Post by cyclone on Feb 20, 2021 2:30:52 GMT
I actually think JVR is going to regress to .6-.7 ppg. But it would be better than Lucic for the season. I hesitate with a $7m salary but I will have to make room once guys come off IR and deal with it then.
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Post by redhawk12 on Feb 20, 2021 2:54:02 GMT
I actually like this trade way more for Mr. Cristie (who makes good cookies). I feel like JVR will regress big time. Just a hot start for him imo
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Post by furnaceface on Feb 21, 2021 2:28:10 GMT
To me, this boils down to JVR, who is a 50-60 pt guy most of his career, for a top prospect who should turn into a 50-60 pt guy who, like JVR has shown so far this year, has the potential to pop to a PPG.
Picks are a wash and Lucic is a cap dump. Yeah, he was just picked up recently, but JVR was also a waiver pickup.
Seems like a classic production now, vs production in the future trade. Seems a win win. Gun to my head I’d like Buffalo’s side as prospects are coveted in this league and Tom could be flipped for good assets.
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Post by cyclone on Feb 21, 2021 2:52:17 GMT
It is very much about our strategies. Me for this year and maybe next. Mr Christy for about three years out, he said that was his window. It is a win for both of us from that stand point.
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