Mitch Marner Heading Out of LA (TOR/LA)

Toronto….

They say the team that trades for the best player, is the team that wins the trade. Toronto did that buy getting Marner. And as a leaf fan, it is great to grab him. But as l.a. said, it will take an over payment to get him…. I took a hit on the pp draft, swapping 1st rounder, for 3rd. But as I said in another trade, I don’t have much interest in this years class of rookies, cause they missed a year of development, making it hard to tell the difference between good and great players…. I swapped UFA pics. A 1st round for a 2nd round. Not that big a deal…. I also swapped giroux for pavelski. Pavelski is a little older, but he was much mor productive last year than giroux. Giroux for the last 5 years, had consistently become less and less of a points scorer. Pavelski is also a cheaper option…. I traded away a minor in holloway. He was a 1st rounder in real life, that I scored last year in the second round. He promising, but one in the bag with marner, is better than two in a bush. I gave up a 23 year old graduating 3rd liner. No big deal…. And then their was the gamble. At the time the trade was made, deAngelo was a $4,8million locker room problem hold out, who sat the whole year out with the nyr. His contract was bought out. At this time l.a. was gambling on him getting a second chance. After we agreed he signed with Carolina, for $1million. Congrats on this gamble. When evaluating this trade, deAngelo should be looked upon as the $4.8mill cap hit, problem child he was at that time.

Dan - tor

Well, this is why there’s two days to object trades, in case there are any concerns that arise. I appreciate the honesty and willingness to speak up.

I took Giroux because he can either be flipped, or he can be kept for next season with a new deal at a lower cost. Holloway is a top 10 prospect in the league, DeAngelo is a good defenseman at only 1m (will be flipped), and I got a 1st UFA in a different year, along with Bastian and another decent UFA. Maybe I could’ve gotten more if I put Marner on the block better. But Toronto came in right away with Giroux, Holloway, and 2021 1st rd Pp, I made him offer a little more with giving up Pavs, who is old, for some younger cost-controlled players and upgraded picks.

Maybe that’s still not enough, but if 4 other GMs agree with you then this deal will have to get reconstructed or cancelled.

Prospect picks are valued insanely in our league, for better or for worse. The other thing is that cap space is also incredibly valuable, which brings down Marner's value slightly.

I don't love this deal for LA, but that's mostly because of my personal valuation on the prospect and picks he got in return. And I don't like DeAngelo.

But in terms of value, I feel it's fair.

For those that say I got a big advantage in this trade, I just want to point out, l.a. laid most of the ground work for this trade. I said I wanted marner, and asked what he wanted for him. He proposed this trade, with me mentioning a couple of no touchables. I heckled and squeezed an extra UFA 4th rounder. And we are both very happy with what we came up with. He’s on a rebuild, and I want to push this year.

Dan - tor

Considering the crappy return I had to settle for when Ovechkin and Stone got squeezed out by their cap hits I think FFF did okay on this deal. There will be more deals like this and worse as the non-indexed cap structure of this league gets worse.